{"id":4928,"date":"2026-02-01T23:21:39","date_gmt":"2026-02-01T22:21:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/kratkiogledi.com\/?p=4928"},"modified":"2026-08-01T16:33:37","modified_gmt":"2026-08-01T14:33:37","slug":"o-klecanju-za-vrijeme-pretvorbe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kratkiogledi.com\/?p=4928","title":{"rendered":"O kle\u010danju za vrijeme pretvorbe"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Posljednjih godina jako puno ljudi ostaje stajati u trenucima kada je u misi obvezno kleknuti. Razumije se da su oni kojima bolest ne dozvoljava kleknuti opravdani i izuzeti od te obveze. No, mnogi vjernici nisu u toj skupini.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jako puno je djece, mladih ali i odraslih zdravih ljudi koji jednostavno ne vide potrebu za kleknuti. Ili smatraju da ako nema klecala ili ako je pod ogoljen, da ne moraju kleknuti pred Bogom.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Takva lako\u0107a izlika i mogu\u0107a ravnodu\u0161nost prema iskazivanju poklona (klanjanja) vanjskim stavom tijela &#8211; to je simptom stanja vjere i dobar pokazatelj propusta i proma\u0161aja kateheze.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"line-height:1\">&#8212;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">U svetoj misi postoji jedan trenutak kada je obvezno kle\u010dati neko vrijeme: pretvorba &#8211; dolazak Isusa Krista, Boga na oltar; njegovo pretvaranje b\u00eeti kruha i vina u Tijelo i Krv Krista &#8211; u Boga me\u0111u nama. On, vladar kozmosa, toliko se ponizuje i spu\u0161ta do nas, da se uprisutnjuje stvarno pod likom kruha i vina.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Na tu njegovu veliku dobrotu koju iskazuje ulaze\u0107i u skromnost kruha i vina, mi odgovaramo svojom ponizno\u0161\u0107u duha i tijela &#8211; kle\u010danjem u duhu i u tijelu. To zna\u010di u \u010ditavom bi\u0107u. Time iskazujemo i vjeru da je tu zaista prisutan Bog. Nema posebnih previ\u0111enih rije\u010di koje prate taj \u010din, jer nema rije\u010di koje su dovoljne. Gesta poniznog klanjanja \u010ditavog bi\u0107a je taj odgovor koji ne mo\u017eemo izre\u0107i.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text has-media-on-the-right is-stacked-on-mobile\" style=\"grid-template-columns:auto 38%\"><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ima li klecala ili nema; je li pod od kamena, tepiha, plo\u010dica ili betona? To naj\u010de\u0161\u0107e nema veze. Zaprljat \u0107e\u0161 hla\u010de? Jao, koja drama! Briga za to da ne zaprljamo hla\u010de je smije\u0161na naspram brige kako da Bogu iska\u017eemo najdublje \u0161tovanje.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bio ti na otvorenom ili u zatvorenoj crkvi, na\u0111i par centimetara pogodnih za kleknuti. Nije ba\u0161 najudobnije? Nema jastuka? Izdr\u017ei malo, ne budi snob i slabi\u0107! Krist za nas izdr\u017eava muku Kalvarije &#8211; u svakoj misi. \u0160to je malo neudobnosti kle\u010danja naspram Njegove muke i sebedarja?<\/p>\n<\/div><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"3749\" height=\"5624\" data-attachment-id=\"4931\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/kratkiogledi.com\/?attachment_id=4931\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/kratkiogledi.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/christian-harb-qro5jf6h1c8-unsplash.jpg?fit=3749%2C5624&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"3749,5624\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"christian-harb-Qro5jF6H1C8-unsplash\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/kratkiogledi.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/christian-harb-qro5jf6h1c8-unsplash.jpg?fit=683%2C1024&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/kratkiogledi.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/christian-harb-qro5jf6h1c8-unsplash.jpg?resize=3749%2C5624&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4931 size-full\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8212;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Po pitanju molitvi i gesti u svetoj misi, nema izbora &#8220;kako je kome dra\u017ee&#8221;. Misa nije ni\u010dija osobna pobo\u017enost, ve\u0107 je to slu\u017ebena, sve\u010dana i najva\u017enija molitva \u010ditave Crkve. Rije\u010di i geste tijelom u misi nisu samo izrazi osobne vjere i privatne pobo\u017enosti. To su izrazi i vjere Crkve; geste nisu samo vanjski izri\u010daj privatne molitve, ve\u0107 su sastavni dio jedne zajedni\u010dke molitve Crkve. U misi nema &#8216;moje ja&#8217;. U misi je &#8216;na\u0161e ja &#8211; ja Crkve&#8217;. Ono &#8216;moja je&#8217; je dio ve\u0107eg &#8216;ja&#8217; Crkve. Ne molimo razjedinjeni osobnim mi\u0161ljenjima i preferencijama.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Svi molimo kao jedna Crkva, jedna Zaru\u010dnica koja iskazuje vjernost Zaru\u010dniku; svi stojimo kao jedno Kristovo misti\u010dno Tijelo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8212;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dobro je znati i kada kleknuti. Naime, ne klekne se \u010dim zavr\u0161i pjesma &#8220;Svet&#8221;. Taj obi\u010daj je prakti\u010dan, ali \u010desto ispada smije\u0161an, kada sve\u0107enik zapo\u010dne neke molitve koje se rje\u0111e koriste. To pokazuje na\u0161 automatizam i nepromi\u0161ljanje o smislu rije\u010di i gesta.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Klekne se kada sve\u0107enik zazove Duha Svetoga, tj. kada ruke ispru\u017ei nad kruh i vino. (obi\u010dno uz rije\u010di &#8220;rosom Duha svoga&#8230;&#8221;) Tada se klekne.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kle\u010di se sve do poklika &#8220;Tajna vjere!&#8221;. Tada se ustaje, a odgovor se pjeva stoje\u0107i. Naime, taj odgovor se odnosi na \u010ditavu misu, a ne samo na pretvorbu. On govori o<em> slavlju<\/em> uskrsnu\u0107a i <em>\u010dekanju<\/em> dolaska. Zato mu odgovara gesta uskrsnu\u0107a i \u010dekanja &#8211; stajanje. To je i gesta koja je prisutna kroz gotovo cijelu misu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">No, postoji i lijepo iznimno pravilo: ako je obi\u010daj u nekom kraju da svi kle\u010de od zavr\u0161etka &#8220;Svet&#8221; pa sve do molitve &#8220;Po Kristu i s Kristom&#8230;&#8221; &#8211; Crkva smatra pohvalnim zadr\u017eati tu praksu du\u017eeg klanjanja!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">No, to zna\u010di da svi vjernici kle\u010de sve vrijeme te velike euharistijske molitve, te ustaju tek prije poziva na O\u010de na\u0161&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Osobno mislim kako bi mo\u017eda bilo dobro posvuda uvesti praksu da se kle\u010di upravo tako. Time bi se mo\u017eda obnovila svijest o va\u017enosti klanjanja u Bo\u017ejoj prisutnosti i svijest o tome \u0161to se upravo doga\u0111a.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8212;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dakle, sve \u010de\u0161\u0107a praksa da mnogi vjernici ostaju stajati za vrijeme pretvorbe je jako lo\u0161 simptom, ali i kritika nemara za pouku i katehezu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tko je zbog bolesti sprije\u010den, opravdano ostaje stajati, ali je du\u017ean barem nakloniti se. Svi ostali vjernici obvezni su ponizno kleknuti za vrijeme pretvorbe, jer veliki Bog dolazi u poniznom \u010dinu pretvorbe i stvarno postaje ovdje i sada Prisutni pod likom malog kuha i malo vina.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Oni koji \u017eele prou\u010diti vi\u0161e o  smislu kle\u010danja u kr\u0161\u0107anskoj molitvi op\u0107enito, neka pro\u010ditaju tekst teolo\u0161kog maestra, Josepha Ratzingera &#8211; Benedikta XVI. &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bitno.net\/vjera\/formacija\/benedikt-xvi-o-klecanju-to-je-ponizna-gesta-koja-nas-smjesta-na-pravi-zivotni-kolosijek-cijeloga-svemira\/?fbclid=IwY2xjawPsmeZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEeHmPRFIY-kf3BzjzuS68kuqTAsefyIjMvTqSPhounq6YgBon1wzuwlh37AlM_aem_fxLfXYAGqeOFm6Iw1Ub5iw\"><strong>OVDJE<\/strong><\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\" \/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>Ivan Glavini\u0107<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Posljednjih godina jako puno ljudi ostaje stajati u trenucima kada je u misi obvezno kleknuti. Razumije se da su oni kojima bolest ne dozvoljava kleknuti opravdani i izuzeti od te obveze. No, mnogi vjernici nisu u toj skupini. Jako puno je djece, mladih ali i odraslih zdravih ljudi koji jednostavno ne vide potrebu za kleknuti. 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